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madoka magica is a perfect analogy of for-profit colleges

"What do you wish for? Make a contract with me and I'll make it happen. Don't mind the unpleasant details."
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LazarCotoron Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Ah, I see you have an appropriate badge on him too.
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NoXV Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012  Student Filmographer
"What do you wish for? Make a contract with me and I'll make it happen. Don't mind the unpleasant details."
reminds me of C.C. from code geass
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ashunyan Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dear god I went to the Ai in Boston for two semesters and the shit I experienced would have turned me into a witch had Kyubei had his hand in my enrollment. From being singled out and mistreated by my drawing teachers to not being able to keep up with the ridiculous workload... Yeah, so glad I escaped before Kyubei somehow managed to show up...
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TheVioletFox Featured By Owner May 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Haha, I remember senior year of high school touring the Ai in Dallas...

Me: "So what kind of SAT scores do I need to get in to this place?"
Advisor: "Oh! You don't even have to take the SATs."
Me: "Uh, then how do you know what academic level I'm at?"
Advisor: "Well, what were your TAKS (Texas Assessment of Knowledge and Skills) scores?"
Me: "I was commended on all four tests."
Advisor: "Oh, that's great! We can get you class credit for those!"
Me: "That's... nice. I'll get back to you on that..."

I got the hell out and never looked back. Then I couldn't get the damn place to stop calling/emailing/sending me crap for a good 18 months (while I was already enrolled in a state university). I'm really glad I never fell for that place.
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kouotsu Featured By Owner May 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
good job you're lucky/smart!
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Csp499 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Apart from the whole financial clusterfuck by their owners, I never got the whole anti-AI thing (but I don't use financial aid or anything, so I'm in no position to tell). Maybe people confuse it with a fine-arts school?
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
essentially it's just a very crummy chain of schools, nobody likes a rip-off
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Csp499 Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What I'm asking is how exactly it's crummy; My experience there so far (about three years) has been pretty worth it.
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
in my case a vast majority of the instructors in my major had little to no real world advice to offer, I essentially spent the first few months learning the interfaces of programs and the next 3 years was basically practice with very little application

I am not sure if I would expect anything more from any other college (except for them having no visitors/guests from my industry whatsoever in the 4 years I attended), but I don't see any reason why I paid the extra $80,000 premium when they had nothing better to offer compared to a community college or university. Having a few more rooms full of computers does not match that extra cost.
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TeenerMeener Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011  Student Filmographer
Yeeeeah...Art Institute is viscous and tends to only want your money. I was going to a community college outside of Portland Oregon before I transferred to the school I am going to now, and there were a LOT of people in the art program who had dropped Art Institute of Portland. Pretty much all of them said they were getting a better education for WAY cheaper at our community college lol.

The people who try and get the high schoolers to come to AI were freaking persistent too, they finally started leaving me alone about like...a year ago when I graduated 8I;
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I wish I could say they pressured me but not really, I just didn't do enough research into schools that are legitimately good 6_9
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ethannnnn Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2011
LOL
this is hilarious.
those people ARE PERSISTENT AS FUCK.
i STILL GET EMAILS even after i told them "no", since freshman year. :iconotlplz:
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zwimmy Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2011
oh noe not QB!!!!!
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KittyPaint Featured By Owner May 13, 2011   General Artist
I've never actually went to the Art Institute but I was interested in going at one point. They always advertised at how great they were and me and my Dad went once to see what it was all about. Luckily, my Dad persuaded my against it I've been attending a local university. The style is quite interesting in the image. I like the soft feeling to the coloring. It is glossy looking, but not overpowering`.
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kouotsu Featured By Owner May 13, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
your dad is smart! I think only one other person in my family has gone to college so I had nobody to watch my back in that respect lol
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Gunsguru Featured By Owner May 12, 2011
where is a good place to go

i'm so confused and scared to grow up ;_;
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kouotsu Featured By Owner May 12, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
If you want to do art and feel compelled to get a degree for it, I suggest going to a university or other school, nothing over around 20k total. No matter what school you decide to go to for art, the majority of what you learn will be by your own efforts, and chances are teachers will direct you to search the internet for answers half the time anyways. For instance, if you wanna get into 3D modeling for games or anything similar, Gnomon is an amazing site with online tutorial videos. A subscription is 300 or 500 per year and you can learn more from those videos alone than what I've learned at AI.
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Gunsguru Featured By Owner May 22, 2011
Well shit bro. Thanks a lot. Will have to keep all this in mind, I'm not really sure what I'm gunna do with my career to much either. (if all else fails, I'll go into plastics).

Thanks again.
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Shen17000 Featured By Owner May 5, 2011  Student Interface Designer
which ai did u go 2?
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kouotsu Featured By Owner May 6, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
pittsburgh
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Shen17000 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2011  Student Interface Designer
cool, i go 2 the one in ny
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Hanyo2k Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
If only my recruiter was that cute. I'd take em home.
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pieceofshyst Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2011
Except for profit colleges don't offer you anything in return, their degrees are worthless and their classes are worthless. At least QB grants you a wish and turns you into a kawaii mahou shoujo.
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pantsu-pirate Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2011
this man seems to be speakin' wisdom.
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Clairvoire Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
I got wrapped in one of these way back. I was young and dumb. It was for 'game programming.' I went for 3 days and THANKFULLY managed to find out it wasn't a good idea. And they rung every cent for the 3 days out of me they could get. Cost me in total two grand.

And what would I have learned? Beginner level C++ and how to muck around in directX. Or basically, nothing I couldn't learn on my own in one week. Google is my university, and I have a full ride scholarship. 8]
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
congrats on only losing 2 grand lol, by the time I realized I wanted to get out I was $60,000 in and couldn't bear making that fruitless
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taelmx Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
Yeah, for-profits are bad news...
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BlackMorass Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
This picture is more true than I care to admit.
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Tenkikun Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I want to call "him" a Evil Outsider just like the Djinn in the Wishmaster movies, but he isnt from some other dimension.
Just some fucked up alien...
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koufuyo Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
Max, stop being a maltese....
The school wasn't that bad,
I mean sure there were alot of unpleasant things along the way
but things always work out in the end, I mean you got to meet all kinds
of cool people and got introduced the 3D right?
Also you got down with flash and got to go to conventions with new comrades.
idk, well you are one who is going to be hired right of the bat...
I mean it took me a year to find a place, but you will have something in no time
because you have the fancy connects in the school and much to show.

Idk if you dudes are still sour with me, but things will definately go well,
what is incorrect btw?
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SiegeEvans Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011   Digital Artist
Shut the hell up
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koufuyo Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
why have you guys been sour lemons since I left?
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
and the fact that I am improving myself on my own, and probably won't have a hard time in the industry, does not make the school's poor quality okay, all the people who can't manage to learn anything from this poor education well end up unemployed and paying back all that money....it's those peoples' futures that I am really mad about, as well as all the fresh high school grads who will continue to be lured in by their flashy advertising and pushy recruiting

it's a subpar education for what you're paying, otherwise it wouldn't be for-profit

the fact that it's for-profit means that a majority of your tuition is NOT and never will be put towards your education, that should not be an acceptable practice for colleges
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
the school was indeed that bad, it's supposed success and credentials are a joke and 90% of the teachers are useless and know nothing about what they're teaching

that would be fine at a cheap university but when I'm paying $125,000 of money that I don't have there is no reason that my education should be equivalent to using Google
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BlackMorass Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
^ This.
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koufuyo Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
they are teachers
I for the most part really expect much from
the majority of them.
Been let down too many times.

Community at that place was exceptional though,
meeting all sorts of folks who were dedicated to the
craft and not clouded by what was "childish" or "nerdy"....
Sure most of what I learned was on me, but I haven't had the push I
got in college you know?
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I don't even think the community here is that good, it's not terrible but there aren't that many people who are very talented, especially when it comes to the field of art I'm involved in.

But regardless, the school not being worth what I paid is reason enough to be disappointed even if there were some nice little things about it. The nice little things were due to the students and teachers not being demonspawn like the company that controls them is.

But hopefully Gainful Employment will pass and the beast will start to die. Then more high school grads will have a better chance of choosing a school that will help them grow without making them pay for it for 20 years.
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koufuyo Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
high school grads have a better chance now that things or more stable.
Game art is always changing so nothing will ever be enough correct?
Still you did get to work in a real world team environment, maybe I am being to positive, but if I say something negative an angry mob will appear.
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
there are schools like digipen that have excellent game art programs, there is no reason at a for-profit school to be anything but up-to-date and cutting edge and know everything there is to know about the industry

it's nice that I got a little job through the school but I probably would have gotten a better job at a better school, it's no better than coincidence. None of the skills they hired me for were learned at this school in the first place
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koufuyo Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
Besides you dudes are going to get hired anyway.
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
That's not relevant, and it is arguably MORE important for those of us with employability to speak up against low quality expensive schools. People who can't find a job will just be seen as bitter people who are mad about their personal choices. If I have no trouble finding a job and still think these schools are a waste of money, that makes a much stronger point.
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koufuyo Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
True, but one cannot lament over the past.....
I could be all sour that I didn't go to SVA or Ringling
But I must make the best of the situation, in the end it all comes down you broham.
Admittedly alot of the teachers wasted our time with needless stuff in
the beginning, but toward the end we got some solid stuff.
I really do wish I learned more about painting and composition too.
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kouotsu Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I'm not lamenting over the past so much as I am protesting bad schools for the sake of the future.
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koufuyo Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2011
Of course, and look on the bright side, if you stay around Pittsburgh you are more likely to be hired.

Being around major art hubs with hotshots a plenty, and years of experience makes it hard to get hired.
Took me a year.
In Pittsburgh, there are plenty of small market/iphone places that are looking for fresh fellows for starters.
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bleedingmonky Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011  Student Artist
I WANT 5 PHDS WITHOUT HAVING TO LEAVE MY HOUSE PLZ QB
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Shanna-The-Hedgehog Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2011
Kyubey, please stop following me wherever I go.
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